Lady Gaga and Ridley Scott on ‘House of Gucci’: When Beauty Turns Ugly

SCOTT No, completely. There is nothing like success to make you feel comfortable in the morning, right? At the same time, if you get some kind of clip or hit, do not let it get to you. If you like what you did, move on.

GAGA I can not agree more. When you make art to please people or seek praise, this is not sustainable. You are basically passionate about making people love you as opposed to being passionate about work. I know I lost myself as an artist for a while when I started worrying about what would make people like me. So I rebelled, because why should I follow a North Star that keeps moving?

All my career I have had ups and downs, I have had ups and downs. When you were talking about “Blade Runner”, I was thinking about my record “Artpop”, and how they aired reviews before it even came out. Because of the freedom of speech, people can write whatever they want, even if it’s a lie, but years later it’s one of my most critically acclaimed albums.

We have no idea what this movie is going to do after it opens, but it does not matter because we know we have done something amazing. When you’re going to be lucky like me and star in one of his movies, you know that no matter what, it’s going to last a lifetime.

You look at Ridley with a lot of love.

GAGA I love Ridley so much. I felt like he was keeping an eye on me. He saw me fall into this character more and more all the time, and he used to say, “Are you good, dude? Are you OK?” I would respond with whatever the truth was, and he would always say to me, “Whatever this is, I hope you leave it here.”

So how did you feel when you left Patrizia and all that behind you?

GAGA To be honest, I was really ready to let go. She is a hugely complicated individual, and when one is constantly living in a state of survival – and she was always in survival mode – it constantly creates such a feeling of trauma. When I got on that plane back from Italy, I threw out my cigarettes. I threw the booze out, I landed in LA and cleaned up my life because I could not live like that anymore. It killed me because it killed her.

And how does it feel to be yourself again?

GAGA It’s really emotional. I joke with Ridley all the time, but I really experienced some kind of attachment panic when I left the set, I missed him so much. I felt like Patrizia had it, a life without Gucci was not a life worth living. The greatest time of her life was to be a Gucci, and I can tell you, to finish this movie, that the best time in mine life was to be a Gucci. This is how art and life are connected. Ridley’s life is a masterpiece, and you’re in luck if you’re allowed to be a part of it.

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